The Acid Beaver wrote:
To use the Logworks program, I would have to use a 3.5mm to DB-9 to USB setup, right? That's not going to work for the guys in oddball parts of the world I work with. I just need EC to work without any headaches. No one I tune with uses the serial logging stuff. It's all just feeding the wideband to the stock O2 sensor line and using one USB to serial adapter and that's it. It works, or, it used to work.
I just need something simple that works without anything extra. I need to log everything as simply as possible. I don't need extra hardware to get in the way of tuning cars, especially when it is NOT available in places (Like Slovakia, Romania, Russia, and Brunei), or it takes months to get something imported.
*shrugs* I only know of two people who bother messing with the serial crap. (You and Justin.)
I'm very curious as to what you've got cooking up. VERY.
The innovate products come with a program cable (2.5mm to DB-9). I just use a simple DB-9 to USB adapter (available for cheap anywhere in the US) and pull in up to 8 (or more) extra channels of data (AFR, EGT, ect.) directly into ecucontrol (or send the ecu data to logworks). No grounding issues, no extra wiring, no finding power sources, no ecu modifications...just need 2 usb (or serial) ports. Actually I plug the innovate chain into my laptop and use a hub to connect the ecu and emulator to my second usb port...pull 2 cables from under the floor mat and your ready to tune.
I used to use the analog out channel thru C16 and was constantly checking to make sure that the values were correct...now I just have it going to a simple gauge.
I'm 100% with you on keeping it simple, ecucontrol got a little carried away on my end trying to add support for things that I thought were useful and what others wanted...especially since the base program was written by synoptic not myself. That and being a rookie on the software development side, proper error handling went by the wayside...and thats really something that should have been more important. This was all developed with vb6, which has been losing interest and support for years now. The new software is being developed with .net (2010), so we shouldn't have all the resource file garbage happening once finished.
The Acid Beaver wrote:
*shrugs* I only know of two people who bother messing with the serial crap. (You and Justin.)